Star Trek Ongoing Comics (1-16): Thoughts and Discussion

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This post is dedicated to the amazing desdike.

Before I get started, let me just warn folks that this topic of discussion – the Star Trek Ongoing comic series – can be potentially spoilery, given the scattering of clues JJ has left for us in regards to the movie coming out in May. So, with that in mind, I will avoid the outright claiming of certain details as connected to STXII in the body of this post.

But that’s not to say I don’t want to speculate, y’all!

Hence there will be two comment threads below: one for non-spoilery, why-did-they-go-this-route? talk, and one for spoilers and speculation about STXII. I don’t mind bouncing back and forth between them. Just comment under the one that’s relevant.

That said, let me start! I’m not going to recap completely – ’cause Lord knows that would take forever – just point out interesting or disturbing things that caught my attention and any thoughts as both a TOS-lover and an advocate of AOS. Though I have read up to comic #17, I will limit my talk to comics #1 through #16. :)

#1 – #2: Star Trek Ongoing

This really should have been titled Remake of Where No Man Has Gone Before. We meet two of Kirk’s Academy buddies, Gary Mitchell and Kelso (I forgot his first name… oops). I gotta tell you, I wasn’t surprised this is where they started the series. Of course there are some differences right away: Spock is already First Officer and Gary is not happy about not being part of the senior command team and not afraid to tell Kirk that either. Then Gary gets taken over by you-know-what and becomes creepy with god-like powers. I’m sure the irony isn’t lost on anyone when Spock advises his captain to strand Mitchell on Delta Vega. Poor Kirk. Gary is his friend.

What made me raise my eyebrow was the scene where Kirk faced off with Mitchell and Gary showed him their past together. In particular he insinuated that he “slipped” Jim answers to an exam test? …Hrm. Not sure what to make of that.

Unfortunately, I was very disappointed by the lack of Elizabeth Dehner. She gets a mention in passing (apparently having had a relationship with McCoy at some point? what?) and basically is cut out completely from the storyline! *sadface*

Other than the end, wherein Spock offers to play chess with Kirk (in lieu of the dead Mitchell who played with Kirk and beat him, too), I wasn’t too impressed by this first tackle at Rebooted canon. Then again, I suppose we would want some things in the universe to stay the same…

#3 – #4: The Galileo Seven

The reason this is one of my favorite TOS episodes is because it’s a character study in Spock AND it’s the first time we really see that lack of understanding between McCoy and Spock which usually sets them at odds. It’s the same in the comics, apparently. :)

Noteworthy here is Rand! With a better hairstyle! It’s so nice to see her on a mission and not simply serving coffee to Kirk or trying to force-feed him salad. I approve, JJ!

For the most part, this episode follows its predecessor up until the point where Spock volunteers himself to be left behind AND, more surprisingly, Uhura abandons her post and steals a shuttle to save him. Now, in my heart of hearts, I know and love that Uhura is a strong, brave woman. Was she ever cowed by a bad guy in TOS? Hell no! But this… this didn’t sit right with me. I think it’s because I would expect Jim to go off the fly and pull a stunt that’s a court-marital waiting to happen. I will say that Abramsverse is going out of its way to establish Uhura as a key player in AOS events. The question becomes… is it done with the right intentions? (And there’d better be no sacrificing of McCoy along the way!)

#5 – #6: Operation: Annihilate

Oh my. What a big one to tackle! This is such a cornerstone episode in TOS for a lot of reasons, mainly to bring on the Kirk!whumpage. I have to say, I appreciated a lot of what came out of this Rebooted version. We finally have some mysteries solved about Jim’s past. Some of them did prove my head-canon wrong, sadly, but I can appreciate a new view.

Most notably about James T. Kirk’s past:
1. Frank is Jim’s uncle, not his stepfather. (Damn, this just invalidated a lot of h/c fics.)
2. Jim’s brother still goes by George (like in TOS) and not Sam. (Double damn! I would think poor George is gonna have a lot of issues with sharing the same name as his dead heroic father.)
3. Frank is still an a-hole. And probably an abusive a-hole.
4. Sam, er, I mean George did leave Jim and Winona, going to stay with his grandfather. Jim kinda hates him for abandoning them. So there’s that, at least, my dears. :/

By the end of this storyline we have a brotherly reunion and nobody in Kirk’s family dies. Really, y’all… need I say more?

It’s worth mentioning I was creeped out by the way the parasites (or singular cells, however you want to think of them) infected their hosts – by literally engulfing their heads. McCoy had to use a scalpel to cut Spock out! My god! Would it have been done this way if the ’60s tv show low-budget props allowed for it? I have to wonder. A lot of things are visualized better in AOS, I have to say.

Lastly, Spock puts himself in a light-exposure chamber without consulting anyone beforehand. McCoy catches him in the act. It’s the third time (or more?) Spock has put himself in the direct line of danger. *shakes head in disappointment at Spock*

As with TOS, Spock’s blindness is temporary, but kudos on this take because his eyesight comes back gradually rather than being a miracle of miracles. (Though I miss the by-play about Vulcan eyes and Vulcan ears!)

#7 – #8: Vulcan’s Vengenance

Sigh.

Talk about out of left field. Okay, I can buy that some Vulcans would go as crazy as Nero did after experiencing the destruction of their homeworld and loved ones, BUT THE EXECUTION OF THIS PLOT CONFUSED ME. I mean, it really did. Probably it was Sarek which confused me most. We only get the one part where Spock sees his father is behind the plot to destroy Romulus and then the next thing we know is Spock somehow convinced him otherwise, with no further details! I needed those details mainly to buy into why Sarek was acting like a would-be murderer of billions of innocent people. What explanation/repercussions we did get was not satisfying. I felt like it was a handy plot device involving a well-known character and then any misdeeds were brushed under the rug.

IDK. Can someone explain what I missed here?

Something interesting to note is Spock’s threat to the Vulcan they interrogated. He said, “Despite the bond we share, I could ask the Captain to forcibly restrain you. I could then mind-meld with you to obtain the information we seek.”

Eek, Spock. This harkens back to one of the six movies where Spock did forcibly take information from his protege who had betrayed him. That never sat well with me, so here I was wondering if Spock would really make good on his threat if he had to. Spock can’t harm an innocent but life-threatening species (Galileo episode, remember?) but he can strip thoughts from somebody’s mind? …Opinions?

This particular comic did do a good job of showing that Romulans have not become frenemies of the Federation. I wouldn’t have expected it, of course, but it’s nice to see how that relationship will obviously lead into further conflicts like in TOS.

(BTW, I see Jim is still carting around his medical doctor into dangerous situations without good reason. And McCoy is complaining he should have stayed on Earth at every turn! Heehee. Go figure!)

#9 – #10: The Return of the Archons

THANK YOU, ABRAMSVERSE! Thank you for the Sulu-awesomeness! Sulu is just larger than life here. And we get to see that Starfleet values him for that. *hugs this comic*

The TOS episode was interesting, in my opinion, but it also made me cringe for McCoy when he was brainwashed by Landru. We don’t get that part in this Rebooted version! We don’t get brainwashed-anybody (I’m talking Starfleet officers, btw), and instead a lovely woman who explains where Landru came from. I kept expecting Kirk-random-lovely-woman romance (TOS conditioned my brain, lol, apparently). I was glad when it didn’t happen.

But I still can’t decide, after finishing this comic, whether I miss the potential McCoy h/c or not. XD

Anyway, there are two important themes here: the higher echelons of Starfleet have had and still do have some suspicious activities going on through the galaxy which Kirk is not happy about; and Jim makes a decision that puts him at odds with Command. Pike has to deliver their warning to him to shape-up.

Personally I enjoyed seeing Kirk struggle to make the decision he did. Even more so, we had both McCoy and Spock arguing against a course of action but for different reasons. Those reasons showed us more about them as individuals and what is ultimately an important part of their mindsets: for Spock, the preservation of what the mission is and its prime directive; and for McCoy, how people are directly affected by the operation of Starfleet and its choices, i.e. the preservation of life itself rather than a preservation of a way of life.

In the end, I think Jim makes a decision in keeping with himself and what he believes is his foremost responsibility – which is to his crewmen and to his ship. Sound familiar? :)

#11 – #12: The Truth About Tribbles

I knew immediately from the title this wasn’t going to be a remake of The Trouble with Tribbles, one of the beloved, more humorous episodes of TOS. And I have to say, everything about this was just right. It represented a true “reboot” of a classic. Previous threads (from STXI) were brought in and used wonderfully, and both old and new information about Tribbles was handed to us on a silver platter. I ate it up, let me tell you.

If anything, this comic felt like a follow-up to STXI; moreover, it felt less like somebody’s testing-the-waters kind of idea and more as if JJ himself wrote this. It had all the little touches I would have expected: from Kirk getting his arm chewed on by a Tribble Eater (heehee, that’s what I think of the beast as) to Chekov being fascinated by his first planetside mission to Scotty being the unwitting culprit of a Tribble-overrun Starfleet Academy. *still chuckling to self*

FYI for future fic writing, courtesy of this awesome comic:
1. Tribbles have a… um, let me just quote Bones: “They don’t have teeth, but I think that cartilage-looking thing at the bottom there beneath the fur absorbs the food.”
2. Tribble on Delta Vega didn’t procreate due to the cold temperature of the ice planet.
3. Tribbles procreate faster at signs of danger (like a Tribble Eater!) so don’t distress them. LOL.

There was no mention of purring. This is the only thing that the story lacked. I wanted to see Spock succumb to a Tribble and keep it as a pet. Damn it.

Also, it’s important to note here, Kirk, that you can’t always expect your crew is acting at its smartest. See what happens when you don’t pay attention to what they’re up to?

Also, also, Scotty gets Archer’s prized beagle back. Bet you didn’t see that one coming, did you? XD

#13: The Redshirt

I didn’t mention it previously but in an earlier comic we learned Cupcake actually has a last name – Hendorff. And he’s a good friend of Uhura’s, hence the protectiveness of her in that bar during STXI. This is a little gem of a comic because it gives us a look into why men and women serve in Starfleet despite the risk. I really feel bad now about any uncomplimentary remarks I may have made about “Cupcake” in fanfiction just for the sake of plot. Clearly he’s proud to serve aboard the Enterprise and under Kirk, despite their unfriendly history. I think he’s still harboring a crush on Uhura. And Scotty sends him on “assignments” to get booze. XD

This is one of those must-reads for AOS fans, in my opinion. Available for download here.

Interesting fact: Chekov made it through the Academy long before Kirk and crew (minus Spock) showed up because he’s more of a freakin’ genius than I previously assumed! Go, Chekov, you little cutie pie!

#14: Keenser

I don’t even know what to say about this one. I loved it. I don’t think I could have not loved it. We finally get a backstory for Keenser and a look into what it’s like for him being on the Enterprise. He’s from a race called the Royla, and he’s the first of his kind to be a Starfleet officer.

And a young Commander George Kirk (Jim’s dad) makes a star appearance!

I think everyone needs to read this. End of story. Available for download here.

#15 – #16: Mirrored

At last, the Mirror, Mirror remake – or is it a remake at all?

First, let me say that Scotty and McCoy having a drink together can still be head-canon – or just plain AOS canon now! Scotty attempts to explain alternate timelines to the good Doctor. Eventually he has to devolve into using booze as an example. I love this pair!

I will say, it grates on me that Scotty calls McCoy ‘Bones’. In my head, it will always be Kirk who has that honor – and no one else! I flinched a little each time ‘Bones’ came out of someone else’s mouth.

And Scotty says, “Damn it, Bones, I’m an engineer, not a poet.” Did this bother, y’all? I don’t know if it was made in jest, or if Scotty is going to be the one with that catch-phrase. :/

Bonus info, though: Old Spock is sticking to his guns concerning “non-interference”. (And I noticed this earlier: the senior command team seems to know about him. But who told them? Scotty knew, I get Jim would have told Bones and possibly Spock would have told Uhura, but…? Hm. Not saying it’s a bad thing, I just would have liked to be privy to that conversation!)

Now to the mirror universe part…

It never occurred to me (and I don’t know why) that Old Spock had to show up in the Mirror ‘verse. Thing is, after thinking about it, I know I would have automatically assumed he would be an “evil” Old Spock. But he’s good. In fact, he’s kinda JUST LIKE THE MOVIE VERSE. That threw me.

I guess the overall concept would be Nero and Old Spock travel back in time to the mirror universe rather than the universe they were familiar. What happens then? How does that timeline get altered when the Narada destroys the I.S.S Kelvin?

Well, for one thing, it just makes everybody kill each other more so than before. They are all very, very ruthless, including our bearded Vulcan. I hope I never have to see Spock cut somebody’s head off again. It just seems wrong, whether he is a mirror version or not.

Anyway, there were things I liked and didn’t like. Maybe it’s better to make a list:

Pros:
– Kirk doesn’t succeed in killing Spock (I saw this twist coming, though)
– Kirk doesn’t succeed in blowing up Vulcan (bad Jim!)
– Kirk doesn’t stay Captain of the Narada
– Pike had a light beard and an eyepatch. Yum. (Sorry, I couldn’t help myself.)
– Klingons weren’t better or worse, just themselves like always, lol.
– Spock was Captain of the Enterprise.
– Uhura, your short hairstyle was uber-cool!
– The scar on Kirk’s face. And his revenge on Nero.
– It’s a version where Spock takes down Kirk and we get to see it happen!

Cons:
– Uhura killed Scotty. *tears*
– Chekov and Sulu seemed weak. No flirty, dangerous Sulu. No evil-grinning Chekov. :(
– McCoy seemed weak and of no opinion either. Damn.
– Uhura first came off as a Marlena.
– There is red matter in the hands of the Imperium. Crapola.

Make of that list what you will. I can’t decide if I approve of Mirrored. Maybe a little. But in the end, though, I think I will stick to my head-canon for the AOS mirror!verse because this one is too… depressing in many ways. I mean, Old Spock has to live out the remainder of his life in that universe? *more tears*

[On to #17 – #19]

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21 Comments

    • desdike

      Well, seeing how I don’t really know much about the TOS universe, I wasn’t as disappointed by some things as you were, but it also meant that I couldn’t appreciate that much the new turns some of the stories made. For example, the mention of Bones’ fleeting past relationship with Elizabeth Dehnerin issue #1 just made me smile, because it was an interesting little tidbit added to his character for me, but I can see no that it was rather a letdown for those knowing TOS. Sarek’s change of heart was definitely as confusing for me as it was for you, I imagine. I kept thinking that maybe I’ve skipped pages, or that there’ll be a flashback about how he came to this decision while talking to Spock… I really loved the Keenser issue too! =) Scotty calling McCoy ‘Bones’ definitely annoyed me. For me it’s seems obvious as well that only Jim should be using that nickname, and I think that would be the case even without all the fanfiction. It’s just wrong, in my opinion. The “Damn it, Bones, I’m an engineer, not a poet.” line didn’t sit well with me either… You say you feel bad about treating Cupcake the way you did in some of your stories now that you know more about his “canon-characterization”. Does this mean that you’re going to use the things you’ve learned from these comics about the characters’ intended background as a “starting point” from now on, or are you going to stick to characterizing them as you see fit for the sake of the plot?

      • writer_klmeri

        Excellent question about Cupcake! I think I won’t use his character so blithely anymore. For one, I gonna use his real name! (And the fact that Jim slips every now and then and calls him Cupcake, lol.) I mean, I had the impression that Hendorff would be part of the Enterprise crew, and since it’s kind of understood most of the crew loves their jobs and adores their captain, that he couldn’t be a “bad guy”, per se. I just… appreciate the new light in which he’s been cast, let’s put it that way. :) Dehner actually had a very important role in the Mitchell saga. That’s why I can’t figure out how come she was cut out. Did they not have enough printing space, or something? It just seemed too easy to say, yeah she had a thing with McCoy and therefore felt uncomfortable being aboard the Enterprise. I could have understood it better if they brought someone else in in the same capacity. Then again, like I mentioned, it’s clear some things will be the same, and some things won’t. I guess this is one of those details Abramsverse doesn’t need. And thank you, really, THANK YOU for letting me know I’m not the only one confused by Sarek’s behavior and the hand-waving on his return to his normal self. It seems like a super-serious thing for a such a logical being to suddenly decide genocide is okay. :/ We’re going to have to wait for the new movie, I suspect, to see if Scotty uses “Bones.” If he does, I will cry a little.

        • desdike

          I will cry a lot, probably. =) Another thing I was wondering: did you ever find the art of the comics off-putting? I was mostly interested in the stories, but sometimes I really got sidetracked by the artists’ portayal of the characters. Did that happen to you at some point? You did say that you liked Uhura’s hair style in Mirrored, but was there anything you remember not liking at all? And one last thing: Are you going to share your thoughts about the “Bones issue” as well sometime? Or will you wait for the next 16 issues to post about the comics again? =)

          • writer_klmeri

            Yes about the art. Sometimes I was like “who are these people?” I remember that McCoy, out of most of them, was not always done right. His voice was a little off, too. That said, I thought the lines for Kirk were good in general because they had the “Pine voice” to them, ie I could picture Chris P. reading those lines. Scotty, obviously, had some big flubs. I am waiting until I get a hold of #18 before I talk about the Bones issue. I would like to do at least #19 and #20 at the same time as well, but again it’s a matter of when they come out and when I have them to read. I won’t wait for the next 16, though, rest assured! I’m not that patient, especially when it comes to learning all I can about a ‘verse I am obsessed with!

    • hora_tio

      Re: content talk .. Before I begin, I must thank writer_klmeri for assisting me in downloading these comics onto my tablet…so “thank you!” First off I should disclose that I have never read comic books of any sort before reading star trek. That being said I must say that it took a while for the concept that these are the events of TOS and how they played out in AOS to sink in. I think that part of the reason for this is that I consider TOS and AOS to be two separate entities. This separation of the two definitely gives me a different POV than those who are looking to compare/contrast the two universes using the belief that they are not separate entities. I am of the age where I watched TOS in its first run on tv back in the sixties and also had the requisite crush on “the Shat.” The only way I could watch/accept Mr. Pine as Captain Kirk was by considering the movie a separate entity. Sorry for the long words, but I felt like I had to explain why I see TOS and AOS as separate entities. To the comics:#1 1. The insinuation that Gary Mitchell helped Kirk cheat back at the academy doesn’t ring true with me. Both Kirk’s are considered to be geniuses. TOS Kirk was a book worm..and wouldn’t have needed the help. (no late night bar fights for him) and AOS Kirk certainly had his fun time but also did a lot more studying than most people realized. AOS Kirk did not see his actions with the Kobi Maru as cheating..(not believing in no-win situations)..this was the basis for the whole 2009 movie storyline.. I have more thoughts on comic #1,but will leave it here because of the length of my post.

      • writer_klmeri

        1. Yes, yes, yes! I’m so glad you picked up on this! I too was struck by that offhand comment from Mitchell about providing Jim answers to an exam. I know it’s a little hard to accept that our favorite character can be a cheat, but it really doesn’t ring true for Jim’s character. I know he wants to finish the Academy in three years, and yes that requires great scores and hardcore studying… but Jim isn’t most people, is he? We go on the assumption that he is smart – as in genius-smart, not just solely street-smart. I’m not saying he can pull answers out of his head without ever having cracked a book… but somebody with that kind of pride about their intelligence, somebody like Jim, will either find a way to skip that test or charm the teacher into re-taking at a later time. Is Jim a cheater? Kinda. He likes to cheat the no-win scenario. More so, he likes to prove people wrong by using his own wiles. I’m like you. I don’t think Jim would take answers offered to him. He’s the kind of man who wants to figure them out on this own, or if he can’t, at least take pride in that him tried to figure them out. Maybe this was a extreme mistake on Jim’s part. Maybe, if he did take those answers from Gary, it’s something he regrets. I would at least hope so!

        • hora_tio

          “He likes to cheat the no-win scenario”.. I concur with everything you have said here except I would maybe use the phrase “He likes to CHALLENGE the no-win scenario.” For me, the phrase used is important because of the negative connotations associated with the word/phrase “cheat”. I hold firm in my belief that Jim would never, even in extreme circumstances, take answers from anyone-not even Mitchell. I believe that anyone that was a true friend of his wouldn’t have even thought to offer him the answers to the test because they would have known that he wouldn’t consider that an option.For instance, Bones would be willing to write him a medical excuse, but only if there was some validity to the excuse. Knowing Jim as well as he does, of all the possible actions he could take to help him, giving him the answers would not be one of the choices. And of course, Bones would also throw around plenty of “idiot” and “dammits”. I

          • writer_klmeri

            Absolutely agree with what you say about a true friend. Maybe Gary was playing at being a friend to Kirk, when he actually was just the kind of person to hitch his wagon to a shooting star, so to speak?

            • hora_tio

              Interesting thought there about Gary playing at being his friend. I think the guy was very calculating and must have had some sort of power hungry complex..(silver eyes)..in TOS. In AOS Gary was a crappy sort of guy also..I think that honestly Kirk AOS would not have been friends with him because the way it is portrayed he was a loner except for hanging with Bones..and I think he was very street wise and would have quickly figured out Gary wasn’t his kind of guy. Personally I don’t believe they were best of friends in either universe…In TOS it seems to me that Gary was less outwardly offensive than Finnegan but he still needled Kirk. In AOS I don’t see it at all…Kirk was good at sizing people up pretty quickly and wouldn’t have wanted a guy like Gary hanging around..and Bones did not like him…deal breaker right there.

    • hora_tio

      My overall feelings after having read through comic #9: The words parody/caricature come to mind when I think of the writing style for Bone’s character. I feel as though he is just this guy that shows up in some scenes and gives some muttered, sarcastic comment and then steps back to let the “real people” do their jobs. It is like they made him one-dimensional and I don’t like it. He is an integral part of both TOS and AOS’s universes. I easily accept that the role/length of Bone’s role in Jim’s life differs in each timeline. In TOS he met a much older, more mature Jim than in the AOS. But seriously folks, the guy is a genius in his own right and he is reduced to being portrayed in such a way that you would think he was the “idiot.”

      • writer_klmeri

        The lack of McCoy did disappoint me – and like you said, what there was didn’t do his character justice. It’s like he was an afterthought or a convenient side character to make use of. I can only hope that the “Bones issue” (#17 and #18) redeems him.

  1. writer_klmeri

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    • writer_klmeri

      Okay, thank goodness I can say this now! . . . . . . . . . When JJ said the comics would lead into the new movie, I think he meant two things: 1. The emotional issue with Spock. Let’s get real, people. He doesn’t care if he dies, does he? He puts himself on a collision course with the Narada, he chooses to stay behind on Planet of the Angry Apes, he sticks himself into a tube that nearly burns his eyelids off… In the comics, we get lots of Uhura-Spock moments in which they are in their private quarters (obviously they share quarters, whether officially or unofficially) where she expresses concern for him. It’s like a damn neon sign. How is Spock going to be convinced not to get himself killed in the span of a two-hour movie? IDK. 2. Jim’s on thin ice with the Admiralty. Obviously the comics have built a strong history of his command style – and why that doesn’t make Command happy. So seeing Pike give a face-to-face talk to Kirk about his captaincy is the result of months of missions that didn’t come about as Command approved, because Kirk made the kind of decisions he did, particularly involving the prime directive. Which is why it’s gonna be an Epic Shit Hits the Fan if when he saves Spock from that volcano!!!

    • ph0enix_flyer

      I agree with you: I really hope they don’t shoehorn Uhura in there with the sacrifice of McCoy. In the first film, I noticed that there was a lot of Uhura in the trailers, but it didn’t reflect her actual screen-time. Basically I got the impression that in the trailers and movie posters at least, she’s there to look pretty and draw people in (not to sound derogatory towards women, that’s just the way it is). It was encouraging to me when you said that it looks like Jim is still dragging McCoy along for no real reason and it gives me hope that I’m worrying for nothing… But still, the part in the trailer where she’s dressed in a jumpsuit saying “I’m ready” and the leaked set photos ages ago of her pointing her gun at Harrison? …Yeah, I love the woman. I really do. But I really want her to do one if she’s replacing McCoy in those scenes just for the sake of Hollywood’s worries that three men taking up the majority of a film’s running time looks ‘too gay’. Also, I wonder if Harrison is someone Gary Mitchell knew, maybe?

      • writer_klmeri

        Oh my gosh, the things I feel about this subject… I am so conflicted! I love Uhura. I love her old TOS self, and I love her new super-badass AOS self. …But MCCOY! Don’t replace him for the sake of – of public appeal. Argh! *cries* Uhura actually has more scenes in the comics than Leonard does. She gets sweet moments with Spock right and left, not to mention even the mirror!verse side of her loves Spock, so I’m definitely sure Abramsverse is trying hard to sell their relationship, more so than in STXI. This can only mean to me that they DO intend to give her screen-time in the upcoming movie. I’m feeling a dichotomy in our favorite characters that breaks my heart. Jim is obviously closest to Bones; Spock is closest to Uhura. Is the budding friendship between Jim and Spock supposed to connect them all? Because I don’t feel like that is what’s happening. It feels like the STXI movie poster where you get Jim, Spock, and Uhura. I am on pins and needles now to see STXII because I believe this is the make-it-or-break-it for McCoy’s character. If he doesn’t the equal footing that Uhura does, then hope is lost for those fans who didn’t get his appeal in the first movie. When you introduce a character too late in the storyline, people don’t care about them as much. It’s a fact.

        • ph0enix_flyer

          Yeah. In the first film, the fact that they were in a relationship was completely out of left field and basically smacked all fans – TOS and AOS alike – right in the face. We may as well have been smacked in the face with a wet mackerel, for all that their relationship was believable. Now? It’s almost as if they’re trying TOO hard to sell that relationship. The events of the first film were so fast-paced that they didn’t particularly have to explain the relationship. Now they do, and I get the feeling that they’re scrambling a bit. I have no problem with her having lots of screen-time; as I said, they kinda have to explain the Spock/Uhura relationship to actually sell it, and that requires screen-time. But, so long as McCoy gets the same treatment. I’m hoping to God they don’t make him the Agony Aunt of the ship; the one that everyone else always goes to angst to and the one that comes on adventures just to moan and complain. Yes, the man does that spectacularly and DID have that kind of role in TOS a lot of the time. But he had his own action moments and his times to be a badass. But I agree. He was just THERE in the first one. People who aren’t familiar with TOS won’t know what the man’s role is, especially as Jim’s moral compass. So they really need to address that before noone cares anymore. On the plus-side though, I remember Alice Eve referring to Spock and McCoy as Kirk’s balance in a few interviews (or something along those lines). Needless to say, she at least gets it about the Triumvirate (I think she even referred to them as that). So hopefully that’s a small sign of a step in the right direction. But I’m going to completely contradict myself now and say that I wouldn’t mind if they start to make it about the FOUR of them. As Jim and Spock get closer, I wouldn’t mind seeing Uhura and McCoy getting closer too and basically bitching about ‘their’ part of the Command Team. That’d be hilarious and I’d love to see it. But again, it’d have to be done right. Yeah, it’s all just hoping at the moment. If none of it turns out right, know that you’ve got someone to cry with! XD

          • writer_klmeri

            Yeah. In the first film, the fact that they were in a relationship was completely out of left field and basically smacked all fans – TOS and AOS alike – right in the face. We may as well have been smacked in the face with a wet mackerel, for all that their relationship was believable. I didn’t want to say that. Thank you for doing it for me, because it’s exactly how I felt! And how I still feel. I enjoy AOS so I have been trying hard to acclimate to that relationship, but sometimes I don’t think my efforts are paying off. So I totally agree they may be working too hard to sell the Spock/Uhura pairing. I almost feel bad for them, actually, on that score. If it’s about the four of them – a “powerhouse” rather than a triumvirate, as my friend KCS once said – I could live with that. It would mean McCoy doesn’t get booted to the comic relief role, which I think we all agree was a sad, sad affair throughout most of TOS. *hugs you* I’m so glad I will have a kindred spirit to talk this over with once the movie is out! BTW, if you haven’t read #13 and #14, I am uploading them to share with people. :) The post will be up shortly!

            • ph0enix_flyer

              I do and I don’t feel sorry for them. On the one hand I don’t want to see them fail. But, on the other, I can’t help but sing a little ‘I told you so!’ I don’t think we have to worry so much about McCoy’s character just being used for the comic relief on this one. Karl Urban had some great comic timing in the first film, but the real powerhouse at comedy in this set of actors is Simon Pegg. So, I think we’ll see more of the comedy from him, if I’m honest. For some reason though, I have a vibe that something is going to happen to McCoy. I dunno why, but I do. :( Okie dokie. I’ll go and have a looksie! ;)

  2. tigergir11333

    Maybe Old Spock is actually Evil in regular verse!!! DUN DNN DUUUNNNN No really, that was kind of weird. I still need to actually catch up on these. I’ve read either the first four or six of them.

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